Wednesday, June 29, 2011

Voris, Maynooth and Ledwidth

I am not a fan of "The Vortex", but since this video concerns the Church in Ireland, here it is.

5 comments:

shane said...

An interesting video but it's too simplistic IMHO. Maynooth had already gone to the dogs long before Ledwidth. I think Voris is scapegoating the man.

Fr Gabriel Burke C.C. said...

Voris really needs to learn more about Ireland. Maynooth was not the only seminary in Ireland at the time Ledwidth was president. I never studied in Maynooth. When I started in Seminary in 1987 I went to Clonliffe. In the timespan that Voris is talking about you still had Clonliffe and All Hallows in Dublin, seminaries in Wexford, Waterford, Thurles,Carlow and the Wing in Belfast. Not forgetting the Irish College Rome.
To blame the decline on one man is nice but way too simplistic.
The greatest challenge to Irish Catholicism is secularism, the scandals have contributed to this but the rot had set in before these became public. I left school in 1984 even then mass attendance was declining. I would say that less than half my class mates attended weekly Mass while we were at school.

Peter said...

"The greatest challenge to Irish Catholicism is secularism"

I disagree. The greatest challenge to Irish Catholicism is... the bishops.

Caroline McCamley said...

Peter, I think you could be right.

Catholicus said...

Pretty ridiculous to blame Ledwig, more of a sympton than a cause. Not convinced that the early accusations against him specified anything of a sexual nature. And Fr McGinnity didn't turn out to be the sharpest tool in the drawer either. And don't think the final accuasation which involved a pay-off involved a minor either. Gotta stick to the facts.

As for secularism - secularism isn't a real thing that can cause anything - it's a description of a state of affairs really. Ireland has become secularist not because of secularism but because of a collapse in the faith.

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